Comments on: DCMA 14 Point Schedule Assessment – Updated/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/Project and stakeholder management topicsMon, 29 Jan 2024 11:42:44 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: drpdg/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8820Mon, 29 Jan 2024 11:42:44 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8820PS, FWIW, in a lengthy debate with Vladimir Liberzon (VP of Spider Software) on Linked In a couple of years back, he finally admitted that he does the same thing we do, which is to use Rolling Wave Planning (Sprints or Scrums by our IT colleagues) and he does exactly what we’ve been advocating for well over 50 years, which we have been treating all projects as being RESOURCE CONSTRAINED and well over 80% of the activities in our CPM schedules utilize PREFERENTIAL or “Soft” logic. Why? Because no project EVER has exactly the optimum size or exactly the optimum number of equipment and as most contractors utilize a mix of their own people and subcontractors, very rarely can you achieve the OPTIMUM mix of trades (by ratios or by numbers) And as we were a Union Contractor, if we needed more tradespeople, all we had to do is call the hall and if they were short, they would call the adjacent locals. (We did a lot of offshore oil platforms and because platforms are considered ships and you can only put so many people on the ship at the same time, you cannot begin to imagine how we have to jump through the hoops to “balance” the composition of the different trades, often on a shift-by-shift adjustments.)

Bottom line. There are precious few planners/schedulers who have that depth of field experience, which explains the TRUTH about why so many projects run LATE and/or OVER BUDGET. https://pmworldlibrary.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/pmwj133-Sep2023-Giammalvo-futility-of-master-plans-prepared-with-little-or-no-hands-on-experience.pdf

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By: drpdg/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8819Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:15:27 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8819Pat and Alex,
Keep in mind that under the requirements from the DAU and DCMA, their primary focus is on AUDITING- designed to “catch” contractors if they have or are in the process of cheating the US Government. (See Abba, Wayne (2023) “It’s Time to “Reboot” Earned Value Management” Defense Acquisition University Blog
https://www.dau.edu/library/defense-atl/blog/Reboot-Earned-Value-Management and Reynolds, Chad (2023)
https://www.dau.edu/library/defenseatl/blog/PlanningfortheFutureofEarnedValueManagement

When I was actively involved with the GAO as an “independent consultant” when compiling BOTH the Cost and Scheduling “best tested and PROVEN” practices, those of us contributing from the roles of CONTRACTORS are not looking at the schedule for AUDITING but as FORECASTING- as a RESOURCE ALLOCATION/MANAGEMENT TOOL and to serve as DEFENSIVE (or OFFENSIVE) purpose to protect us against claims and help to perfect or substantiate our claims against the OWNERS DELAYS and CHANGE ORDERS. VERY DIFFERENT from how the NDIA and private sector contractors need or use the CPM schedule. https://pmworldlibrary.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/pmwj133-Sep2023-Giammalvo-futility-of-master-plans-prepared-with-little-or-no-hands-on-experience.pdf

And IF the CPM schedule has NOTHING to do with EVM, then why do they bother with SV or SPI? Or the false and misleading claims by PMI and Walt Lipske with their claims about “Earned Schedule”? Wayne Abba and I have agreed since PMI and Lipske made that claim both Wayne and I agreed that “Earned Time” and “Earned Schedule” have always dated back to the ORIGINS of Earned Value, from the Industrial Revolution, which we still see in use today in shoes and clothing (and nearly all other factories, as well as “job shops” like Doctors, Dentists, Lawyers, Auto mechanics, Barbers, Hair Dressers, Engineers and anyone else who offers their services on a “walk-in” basis that is sold on a “Unit Completed” basis) in the form of what is known as “piecework.” https://pmworldlibrary.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/pmwj121-Sep2022-Giammalvo-origins-and-history-of-evm-a-contractors-perspective.pdf

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By: The evolution of the DCMA 14 Point Schedule Assessment | Mosaicproject's Blog/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8817Sat, 27 Jan 2024 08:30:24 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8817[…] The objectives of the DCMA 14 Point assessment is frequently misunderstood, this was discussed in DCMA 14 Point Schedule Assessment – Updated. […]

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By: Pat Weaver/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8583Sat, 01 Jul 2023 05:31:22 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8583In reply to Alex Lyaschenko.

Hi Alex, I would differentiate between technical issues (assessed by the DCMA and similar approaches) and quality as in ‘fit for purpose’. .

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By: Alex Lyaschenko/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8582Sat, 01 Jul 2023 05:19:29 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8582Pat, thanks for the post. There is a common misunderstanding of what the DCMA 14 points assessment is for, and both points, you have raised are valid and important.

Many posts present DCMA-14 points as a GENERIC schedule QUALITY assessment, while 3 metrics (11, 13 & 14) are purely about project performance.

It is barely applicable outside the Defence Contract Management Agency portfolio. This portfolio has a huge number of contractual projects, and they need a SIMPLE set of metrics to identify which projects require deeper analysis.

Also, the recent ’14 points check’ addon to the desktop version of Primavera creates the illusion that this tool now supports the DCMA assessment, and it is not. Even well-recognised P6 gurus rushed to announce that Primavera supports the assessment only because the total number of assessments is the same and some checks have similar names.

Another point I want to make is that assessment can’t guarantee that the GREEN schedule (based on the assessment) is reliable and doesn’t have a critical quality issues. With the volume of projects, they can’t “catch” all problematic schedules, but the health assessment is sufficient to catch many of them. I would say, it is probabaly practical to apply the ‘80/20’ rule for that type of portfolio and maybe absolutely not applicable to other portfolios.

It would be great to have a white paper to review the gaps. Happy to participate.

Regards,
Alex Lyaschenko

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By: Pat Weaver/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8579Sat, 01 Jul 2023 01:47:48 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8579In reply to drpdg.

The problem is Paul, the DCMA 14 point checklist is for evaluating CPM schedules – IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EVM. You continue to show you lack of comprehension.

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By: drpdg/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8578Sat, 01 Jul 2023 01:32:23 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8578In reply to Pat Weaver.

I have read the links (many times!!), and based on published research by Wayne Abba https://www.dau.edu/library/defense-atl/blog/Reboot-Earned-Value-Management and Chad Reynolds https://www.dau.edu/library/defense-atl/blog/PlanningfortheFutureofEarnedValueManagement the DAU has finally admitted that Earned Value, as being advocated by the US Government (and PMI and AACE et al.) has not worked in the past, is not working now and they are finally admitting EVM has to be changed for the future.

For 50+ years, we (and our clients) have been successfully using EVM not as the DAU advocates it but as it evolved on the factory floors of the 18th Century Industrial Revolution and as a “payment for performance” or “incentive payment system” https://pmworldlibrary.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/pmwj121-Sep2022-Giammalvo-origins-and-history-of-evm-a-contractors-perspective.pdf and under that system, the only VALID project schedule technique is what we in construction call “Rolling Wave Planning,” and our IT colleagues call “SCRUMS” or “SPRINTS.”

The “fatal flaw” in creating IMS can be found in these quotes from Helmuth von Moltke-“no plan survives first contact with the enemy”; Gen Eisenhower, who told us, “Plans are useless, but planning is essential,” and Gen. Omar Bradley’s quote- “AMATEURS study STRATEGY while PROFESSIONALS study LOGISTICS.”

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By: Pat Weaver/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8577Sat, 01 Jul 2023 01:06:34 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8577In reply to drpdg.

Try reading the links instead of asking rhetorical questions.

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By: drpdg/2023/07/01/dcma-14-point-schedule-assessment-updated/#comment-8576Sat, 01 Jul 2023 00:59:22 +0000/?p=4348#comment-8576Have you benchmarked the GAO’s “Best Practices in Scheduling” https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-16-89g.pdf (Appendices II and VI) against the DCMA’a 14 points?

And where is your proof to back up your claim that “there is an established correlation between a competently prepared schedule and project success”?

The IPMA/KPMG research from 2019 and 2020 certainly doesn’t support any claims for correlation, much less causation.

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